read reviews: None of clone ECU programmer bricked anything

 This article put together the test reports of many ECU tunners to tell us that no clone ECU programmer like kess, ktag, Fgtech, mpps 21, and others... will brick ECU. This is a fact, not a false advertisement.

 

Review 1.

About tools, ktag and kess clones, galletto 4, kwp2000, mpps18, none of it bricked anything that went through my hands. You will brick, when sw/hw mismatch will occur. But with bdm, most of them can be easily repaired.

Some' said that ktm bench messes around the edc17... well, did it? I've never had one bricked. Up to now

BTW, I've had an edc16c34 Ford, cloned with Flex, by a friend of mine. Was a mess inside that flash. Solved it by bdm, with ktag clone.

Up to now, fvdi 2014 did not brick any...

 

Review 2.

Don't bother with mpps v21 they die after about 10 writes so stay away. mpps v18 eu clone is a very good tool i own one amazing on edc15 an edc16 it loves them. as for kess v2 clone be very careful some china ones are shit
some are ok but all of them need a rework don't let anyone tell you different and it will be a very good tool after a rework never had a problem with mine and don't bother using ksuite 2.53 or 2.70 onwards there all bull shit there not new versions
just number changes stick to 2.23 thats the most stable for kess 5.017 and ktag 7.020 and look for the rework guide on the kess and ktag also change the sd card the china kess and ktag cards are known to be unstable cheap shit
i speak from experience hope that helps

 

Review 3.

mpps v18 working without problem, sometimes I have wakeup error on Kess/Ktag clone, but never brick ecu.

 

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So, it is also worth the money to pay clone ECU programmers to flash own car for hobby tuning.

Read more:

https://www.obdexpress.co.uk/wholesale/car-ecu-programmer/

Read PPD 1.2 via OBD or BDM? which ECU programmer?

Question: It is better to read PPD 1.2 over OBD or BDM for Remap and DPF off ?

Reply: It's always better to read on BDM than OBD. But for this job OBD can work perfectly with KESS V2. Note that obd reading/writing works ONLY in car.

Question two:
What maps are missing from OBD read in PPD 1.2 ? They are important or not ?
If I write BDM file using Kess by OBD then BDM area will write too or not ?
I just heard that for DPF off I need full BDM.

Reply: no, obd2 works fine.

Finally, tested Kess write file without problem.

Maybe you are interested in: KESS V2 5.017 PPD1.xx car list

http://www.obdexpress.co.uk/

How to Solve K-Suite Install error "Cannot open/create C:\Ksuite247\Ksuite.exe file"?

obdexpress.co.uk engineer offer the solution to K-Suite Install error "Cannot open/create C:\Ksuite247\Ksuite.exe file".

Possible reasons and solutions:

1. Uninstall / Exit the antivirus software.

2. The software was destroyed during the installation process. If so, please reinstall the software. We also uploaded the free software for you to download.

Ksuite 2.47 free download:
https://mega.nz/#!8QgwSboa!XLUqAJBt6ISsL4ijpdxZ68emHJa8EMAvwLAq_ZRlZPg

Password: laura168

Active: No need

OS: XP, WIN7 32bit, Win8 (Win10 may have error)

Ksuite 2.47 win7 installation guide:



Better disable the network connection. 
Language: English, German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, French
The above ksuite 2.47 software is tested working fine with all Kess V2 master 2.47 incl.
SE137-C1, SE137-B, SE137-C2, SE137-F, SE137-C, SE137-B1, SE137-C3


Good luck.

Which Tool Or Software Can Remove PDF, EGR, Adblue,NOX?

If you are looking for a recommendation for an OBD tool and software for removing or modifying files on most makes and models. Please read this article.

As I know you need more than one tool:

About 90% of people are using clone or reworked tools like kess or mpps.

You need more than one tool:
Hardware: Kess + Ktag for reading/writing
Software: Winols /ECM TITANIUM for modifying files (if you know the maps of it).

If will be for yourself use kess ktag clone is the best option.

the mpps is good but not in all cases . Mpps i think is more fastes . But kess have more ecu`s . For dpf egr etc. you can use ADS DPF, EGR remover but not all solution are good . You need to learn Winols.

For kess, KESS V5.017 No Token RED PCB. it is a clone but is very good.

Read this article: Best ECU programmer China Clone buying guide.

This article is trying to talk about the best ECU programmers China Clone incl. Ktag running ksuite, Kess V2 master running ksuite, FGtech Gallote V54, MPPS V18, renolink Renault ECU programmer etc.

Read this article: Clone Kess 5.017 Ksuite 2.47 review

One more helpful article: all ECU programmer China Clone software download

Hope it helps.

http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2019/09/17/an-obd-tool-and-software-for-removing-dpfegradblue-nox/

How to rework clone KESS V2 green PCB in the correct method?

Because some people are making some good money out of it (rework clone KESS V2 green PCB ), let’s make it free for everyone.

PS: the following red parts are the correct method. 
Transistors to use : 
BCR112
MMUN2113
BC817

Murata filters:
NFE61PT472C1H9L (connect ground for all of them)

Correct method:

Connect MIDDLE PINS MURATTA FILTERS TO GROUND, not the signal

Capacitors:
1uF – 35V
220uF – 10V
10uF – 16V tantalum

Go Follow Picture.
I changed Voltage Stabilizators as well
1 x LM1117 3.3v
1 x PZT2907AT1G
1 x LM2575s 5.0V
all diodes SK14 (not required)
Micro SD Card to better quality if is NO NAME (BLANK on the top) but very carefull, is not easy just copy CONTENT, need generate againb becase another card have diffrent CID so will doesn`t work, if you copy 1:1

Compare with V5.017 Kess China clone green PCB:

BTW, reword has certain requirements on the user’s skills, please be careful. Invest the original one or the clone one will be better.

Thanks to @pocinas from DK forum.

Thanks Laurance editor.

SOURCE:http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2019/03/27/how-to-rework-clone-kess-v2-green-pcb/

OPEL Combo 1.7 CTDI Denso ECU read and write with KESS 5.017

The car is a OPEL Combo 1.7 CTDI, 74kW.

ECU: Denso 112500-D210; DT D06011.

Tool to use: With kess you can read and write

like in picture… ID, READING, WRITING …

Here Kess 5.017 model list:

http://www.obd2eshop.com/upload/pro/kess-5.017-support-models-list.pdf

Attach Opel Combo list:

And a partial of Denso list:

FYI, before having KESS 5.017 to read and write OPEL Combo 1.7 CTDI Denso, you are advise to have one good quality KESS 5.017 hardware, like this one:

Src: http://www.obd2eshop.com/wholesale/kess-5017-red-pcb-firmware.html

Reasons:

1. Better performance, function as well as more online protocols supported.
2. Perfect for OBD use, Read and write ECU via OBD2 port directly, no need disassemble ECU from the car, easy to use .
3. No reset button, no USB dongle, no tokens limited and has tested by many users as well as our technology department, 100% workable.

and more

Besides, you have to know how to install Kess V2, take Ksuite V2.47 install on win7 for example:

Win XP / Win7 32bit, Win 8, etc. works

 Source:http://blog.obd2eshop.com/opel-ecu-read-and-write-with-kess-5-017/

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How to fix Kess V2.47 wake up error?

The possible reasons for Kess V2.47 wake up error:  1. the car model is not supposed to be supported; 2. For some operation system, it requires patch, if you directly use Ksuite 2.47 you will get wake up error. 3. TF card is not in good contact with the computer.

How to solve?

Reason 1: the car model is not supposed to be supported

Solution: Try another version.

Free download:

Ksuite 2.37

https://mega.nz/#!wHhXUT6L!Mr1AFoJEzij-OJW8ubrBVWkp6tQgfrsFGkY3L_pZip4

Ksuite 2.33:

https://mega.nz/#!UTJTRAAb!tbyaYhucGYrySsKQghXcjHYu-qcw0qbr15D36uCS3bo

Reason 2: The user didn’t install patch for some operation system.

Solution: follow this video to install KESS V2 Ksuite 2 47 on win7.

Ksuite 2 47 Installation in words and images:

http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2018/06/12/how-to-download-free-intall-kess-v2-ksuite-v2-47/

Works on XP, WIN7, WIN8, etc.

Reason 3: TF card is not in good contact with the computer.

Solution: try a new one TF card or a another computer.

 http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2019/01/22/how-to-solve-kess-v2-47-wake-up-error/

Kess V2 unlocking Simos PCR 2.1 - connection, wiring, tips&guides

Possible to OBD unlock Simos PCR 2.1 with Kess V2 clone?

Look here: all information can be found here to help you unlock PCR 2.1 using Kess v2 china clone.

Connection:

ECU connection for the bootmode unlocking procedure only!

1. Connect the ECU to the bootloader adapter
2. Power up the bootloader adapter with a stabilized 12v power supply
3. Connect the cable 14P600KT02 to the 14P600BTLR adapter
4. Follow the instructions provided below

Wiring diagram:

1. Solder a wire to the CNF1 pin
2. Solder the 470 Ohm resistor on the two pads
3. Solder the 1K resister on the pad

 

Test:

Basic info:

Tested and confirmed working by me on 4 ecus /cars

only on Chinese clone not reworked unit: ktag 6.070, kess v2 v4.036, ksuite up to 2.15

Tips and guides of tools for use:

pcr 2.1 need to be as you know unlocked before writing .

On this ecu pcr 2.1, ksuite (kess v2 or ktag) seem to be more stable than fgtech on pcr but work too sometimes: i get error with fgtech on one pcr2.1 but no problem with ksuite . 

So if you have both tools , prefer ksuite seem to be more stable & flawlessly and car run ok .

After you get you ecu unlocked in boot mode , with fgtech just remove boot and left pin connection , and read or write on bench .

On ksuite tools , you can’t read or write with ktag , only unlock . (alientech need to work on it…)
with kess it’s ok , BUT , you can’t use the tricore module !

The problem is that the harness is plugged in the tricore module . so you have to build your own bench cable : just get a obd female plug on a scrapyard , and wire +12 gnd and can h/l (kline is not used but you can wire it it will make a universal bench cable) .

The trick to get communication error free on both fgtech and kess cable is to use a strong external psu .

when the tool id or read or write the ecu , the ecu will perform a kind of reset , and the big cap inside the ecu will go charging , causing a drop in voltage if your psu isn’t strong enough to handle it . THAT WILL CAUSE THE COMM ERROR . That’s the only thing you have to take care . 

when i made test with many little psu (like one you get with your tools) i have seen 7 volts drop some time , so the ecu is shutting down and no comm . 

you can use computer atx psu modded to work on bench (green wire plugged on ground to power on ) i think anything that can provide +12v 2A will be ok . i didn’t need more than 12v just a stable 12V . 14v unstable will not be ok 

that’s why on the car you have no problem , car battery can handle the cap charging current .

There is no immo caused comm error on this ecu , psu is the problem !!

So in conclusion : good psu and obd home made bench cable , remove tricore module on kess = 100% tested bench flashing solution for pcr2.1 .

 http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2018/11/12/how-to-obd-unlock-simos-pcr-2-1-with-kess-v2/

Kess V2 (red board) reviews from a real professional

A lot of Kess V2 (red board) reviews and ideas from a real professional @euromod:

... just observe the pcb and random choose some parts on Kess V2 red board , then search them on tme / farnell / etc and also search for the same part on alibaba or similar china site. you will see different markings , labels of the clone parts .... and .... prices
but you already know that , I`m sure ...
here are some examples ,
in green fake , SK14

in green fake UL46

in green fake 27E diode

left side , fake 5V voltage regulator,

in green , fake 3.3V voltage regulator. in this picture you can observe also the genuine ST L9613B Kline interface

other genuine parts mounted

genuine Murata oscillator (on PCB) vs fake one

I have on another PC all the comparative photos because I used to rework this units.
.... anyway I will stop here because it`s a waste of time debating on this subject.
if you state that those clones are made with genuine parts (or the cloned parts are working like the genuine ones) I have no problem with that

Edit to update: just search for the parts I posted , fake Murata logo , fake ST logo , fake Texas Instruments logo.
mate , please feel free to send one of those parts via post mail to the original producer and you will have the right answer....
... as with all clones from opcom to ktag I don`t trust nobody and when possible I replace all parts with good parts from a good brand and trusted part supplier trying to minimize potential problems.
you defend the low cost parts saying also that those parts are not illegal ...
.... how about the clones build from these parts? are they legal?
on the other hand just do an firmware upgrade on this , and you will see how genuine is ....

and the genuine unit cost 10 euros ... (more then the whole cinese opcom , factory price is 2$ if you buy more. they can put your name on the IC , no problem)
the genuine part:



Credits to euromod
Source: https://mhhauto.com/Thread-Kess-V2-....-RED
Reliable source to get Kess V2 red: http://www.obdexpress.co.uk/wholesale/kess-v5.017-ecu-online-version.html


http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2018/09/10/kess-v2-red-reviews-from-a-real-professional/