Here’s the tested result of tuning chip differences between UPA-USB and Xprog-m ECU programmer. UPA USB chip tuning is good in doing MOTOROLA chip while X-prog m supports on-board and in-circuit programming of better following chips including Motorola 68HC05, 68HC08, 68HC11, 68HC(S)12 family MCU's, Texas Instruments TMS370/TMS374 family MCU's and serial EEPROM's.
UPA USB Programmer Support the following chips:..
STMicroelectronics ST62*: ST6240, ST6245, ST6249
NSC CR16*: CR16HCS5(9), CR16MCS5(9), CR16MES5(9), CR16MFS5(9), CR16MCT5/9, CR16HCT5/9
Motorola HC05*: MC68HC05B6, MC68HC05B8, MC68HC05B16, MC68HC705B16, MC68HC05B32, MC68HC05E6, MC68HC705E6, MC68HC05H12, MC68HC05L28, MC68HC05P3, MC68HC705P3*,MC68HC05X16, MC68HC05X32
Motorola HC08*: MC68HC08AS20, MC68HC08AS32, MC68HC08AS60, MC68HC08AZ32, MC68HC(9)08AZ32A, MC68HC908AZ60, MC68HC908AZ60A
Motorola HC11*: MC68HC11A1, MC68HC11A8, MC68HC11E9, MC68HC11EA9, MC68HC11E20, MC68HC11F1, MC68HC11K4, MC68HC11KA2, MC68HC11KA4, MC68HC11KG4, MC68HC11KS2, MC68HC11KS8, MC68HC11L6, MC68HC11P2, MC68HC11PA8, MC68HC11PH8
The XPROG-m supports in-circuit or on-board programming of:
Motorola 68HC05 , 68HC08, 68HC11, 68HC(S)12 , HC912, MC9S12, MC9S12X
Texas Instruments TMS370 , MPC5xx, ST10Fxx, ATmega family MCU's
serial EEPROM's
XPROG-m programmer is fully upward-compatible hardware with XPROG programmer and have many additional features.
All supported devices are divided into "Software authorization" licenses. You can obtain authorization license only for these devices you are interested in.
NOTE:
UPA : Cannot read secured mcu / Xprog-m: Can read secured mcu
UPA : must have knowledge to use with processor / Xprog-M: Must be good in soldering / desoldering
Tuesday, April 12, 2016
New Genius Ktouch vs. Kess V2 ECU Tuning Tool
Hand-held New Genius & Flash Point has been released for decades. Here, obd2express list the main differences of the two ECU chip tuning tools- hand-held kess v2 and pc-based kess v2.
Product Name | New Genius/ Ktouch | Best Quality Kess V2 |
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Language | English, Italian, German, French , Spanish, Portuguese, Hungarian | English, German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, French |
Software | -- | V2.15 |
Hardware | V5.05 | V4.036 |
Tokens | No Tokens Limitation,30 Token s come with device by default, you can press the tokens reset button on the back of hardware to get new Tokens | No Tokens Limitation, there is renew button on the main unit. This button is used to charge tokens. Once your tokens run over, just click this button, then tokens will go back to 30 tokens. |
Update | via hardware | via hardware |
Support Protocols | CAN-BUS, KWP and J1850 protocols | Line, CAN, EDC17 and MED17 and Ford J1850 |
Vehicle coverage | Car, Bikes, LCV Support more new vehicle than Kess V2 New Genius vehicle list | Car and Bike |
PC | Hand-held, no need PC; software is inside the machine already directly to use PC is needed when modify the data | PC-based ECU Programmer; you need install the software by yourself |
OS | Windows XP system | most WIN7 and XP systems |
Method | Read and Write ECU via OBD2 directly | Read and Write ECU via OBD2 directly |
Conclusion | 1) Hand-held KESS V2 version- KTouch, more easily and convenient to use 2) Adds more new ECUs than KESS V2 |
How to solve Kess V2 Bootloader adapter problems
Find a solution to fix Kess v2 clone bootloader adapter problems. Just put it here for sharing.
Device:
Kess v2 with ksuite 4.036 (China clone)
Symptom:
I am having problems with my bootloader adapter for Kess v2. Kess is reworked to 4.036 and works with OBD cable. I tried to use bootloader adapter and cable, but failed to read any ecu. I tried to connect EDC17CP14 (on the bench and without boot pin- obd mode on the bench), no luck with Kess (but my reworked Galletto worked with similar wiring ID + read OK).
I already checked the wiring in the cable connector- fixed some wires, but still nothing.
I think there may be something wrong in the bootloader unit.
4 steps to solve bootloader adapter problems:
Step 1- fixed the wiring
i fixed the wiring in the connector that goes into the bootloader module like in the picture (Ktag has the same) 4 wires were wrong in my connector.
Step 2- resoldered the mosfet
And I resoldered the mosfet (in the middle of the module- near the middle LED).
Step 3- read ECU without opening
I then got the power to the ecu. But it didnt read it, probably because I didn’t connect the boot pin (that needs to be soldered on the ecu pcb). I tried to read it without opening, because I borrowed the ecu.
Step 4- opened the ECU to read
So I finally got the time to test my bootloader module with all wiring (boot cable attached). Once I opened the ECU (edc17cp14) and connected the boot pin, I was able to succesfully Id and read the ECU.
Worked like a charm!
The main problem was the soldering of the mosfet transistor in the middle of bootloader pcb, and I remowed the extra wire that was on the other side of the pcb.
Hope this helps those with Kess V2 unit from China
(NOTE: This is a cutomer solution; please try and responsible for what you will do)
Device:
Kess v2 with ksuite 4.036 (China clone)
Symptom:
I am having problems with my bootloader adapter for Kess v2. Kess is reworked to 4.036 and works with OBD cable. I tried to use bootloader adapter and cable, but failed to read any ecu. I tried to connect EDC17CP14 (on the bench and without boot pin- obd mode on the bench), no luck with Kess (but my reworked Galletto worked with similar wiring ID + read OK).
I already checked the wiring in the cable connector- fixed some wires, but still nothing.
I think there may be something wrong in the bootloader unit.
4 steps to solve bootloader adapter problems:
Step 1- fixed the wiring
i fixed the wiring in the connector that goes into the bootloader module like in the picture (Ktag has the same) 4 wires were wrong in my connector.
Step 2- resoldered the mosfet
And I resoldered the mosfet (in the middle of the module- near the middle LED).
Step 3- read ECU without opening
I then got the power to the ecu. But it didnt read it, probably because I didn’t connect the boot pin (that needs to be soldered on the ecu pcb). I tried to read it without opening, because I borrowed the ecu.
Step 4- opened the ECU to read
So I finally got the time to test my bootloader module with all wiring (boot cable attached). Once I opened the ECU (edc17cp14) and connected the boot pin, I was able to succesfully Id and read the ECU.
Worked like a charm!
The main problem was the soldering of the mosfet transistor in the middle of bootloader pcb, and I remowed the extra wire that was on the other side of the pcb.
Hope this helps those with Kess V2 unit from China
(NOTE: This is a cutomer solution; please try and responsible for what you will do)
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